Jesus Showed Gospel

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2012-09-30 11:45:19 UTC

Post by Frank
Jesus who is God, the Son,
showed the Gospel concisely
to his own at the Last Supper
at the end of his last discourse
to his people before he went
to the cross as our Substitute
to pay for our sins
as though our sins were his,
so that he be our eternal life
as though his righteousness

there is no such person as " God, the Son " in all of Holy Scripture. there is but one Living God
just as we read in Eph.4:4-6, never being addressed as " God, the Son. " this imply's there is 3
Gods... the elect don't speak this way so as to mislead others.

when you hear someone speaking as this fellow you have found someone talking denominational
traditions and not Holy Scripture. furthermore, Christ did not pay the penalty of sin for His elect
ones at Calvary 2000 years ago. He paid the penalty of sin before He created the world, Rev.13:8
when His works were finished, Hed.4:3, and, for the elect alone, Mt.7:23.

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Post by Frank
And when he [the Spirit] is come,
he will reprove the world
of sin,
and of righteousness,
Of sin, because they believe not on me;
of righteousness, because I
go to my Father,
and ye see me no more;
Of judgment, because the prince of
this world is judged.
(John 16:8-11 KJV)
Jesus would send his Spirit
to his people to testify of him
and to convince the world
And when he [the Spirit] is come,
HE WILL REPROVE THE WORLD
of sin,
and of righteousness,
(verse 8)
Jesus preached the Gospel from heaven
thru his Spirit by his people,
especially by Paul to the nations,
having given him the Gospel
by revelation,
that was the same as
the concise Gospel
Jesus had shown
while yet on earth,
that Jesus himself is
our Righteous Substitute,
righteous for us forever
Of sin, because they believe not on me;
OF RIGHTEOUSNESS, BECAUSE I [JESUS]
go to my Father,
and ye see me no more;
Of judgment, because the prince of
this world is judged.
(verses 9-11)
Jesus showed that same Gospel by his Spirit
to Luther for the Protestant Reformation.

here is what hearsay is all about via denominational traditions... making up theology as needed.
where does the Bible say Jesus showed the same Gospel to Luther ? it doesn't. and what the poster
means by " Gospel " is that the Protestant Reformation ' gospels, " plural, is the " Real Biblical
Gospel "... as he says " But the real Biblical Gospel, the Reformation Gospel, is hardly seen: "

the posters ideas hover around Luther and the many gospels coming out of the Protestant Reformation.

the Protestant Reformation had and has nothing at all to do with election unto life, otherwise,
there would have been a Reformation when God called Abraham to life.

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Post by Frank
Since the Reformation,
other so-called "gospels"
that are based on personal
so-called "righteousness"
rather than on Jesus being righteous for us
forever in our stead for our salvation,
have pushed aside the real Biblical Gospel.
To be saved,
people must receive faith from Christ
to trust him to be righteous for us
forever in our stead for salvation,
which is a return to the Gospel
that Jesus showed concisely
while still on earth,
and that he showed from heaven
to Paul to preach
to the nations,
and that he showed
to Luther for
the Protestant Reformation.
Jesus saved me by showing
me that same Gospel
despite at the time
my being lost in
deepest darkness
in the occult
called Mormonism.

no one can understand the gospel while dead in sin, Jn.3:3; 1 Cor.2:14. what the poster is saying
is that, by following the denominational traditions he always has, the good work of saving himself
because he is smarter than others is the result of " Jesus saved me by showing me... " this
" showing me " business is because he is smarter than others and he offers the same salvation by
good works gospels by which he smartly saved himself....

the elect don't talk the way he does. the elect know, as in Acts 13:48, that they have faith as the
direct result of being elect, chosen to be given life eternal by the Living God they were not
seeking, Ro.10:20.

the Protestant Reformation isn't built upon God saving smart people, either.

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Post by Frank
Except for the remnant
that Jesus has given faith
to trust him to be righteous
for us forever for salvation,
that he takes in the Rapture
(Revelation 3:10),
the two billion
professing Christians
supposing they
"have need of nothing"
(Revelation 3:17)
need to return to the Gospel
that Jesus showed on earth
and that he showed from heaven,
before he comes suddenly
I counsel thee to buy of me
gold tried in the fire,
that thou mayest be rich;
Behold, I stand at the door,
and knock: if any man hear my voice,
and open the door,
I will come in to him,
and will sup with him,
and he with me.
(Revelation 3:18,20)

here is one of the favorite passages quoted by those who saved themselves, Rev.3:20. as do all of
the tares they isolate this passage from the rest of the Bible and try and build a case for
self-salvation from it. this is done by them so they can retain their free will to choose Christ...
they've " opened the door " and therefore they understood the gospel and saved themselves by
responding positively to it.

Post by Frank
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